Last weekend at “UFC on FX 2: Alves vs. Kampmann”, Ian “Uncle Creepy” McCall made one more memorable UFC debuts in recent memory. McCall was one half of the first flyweight bout in UFC history, fighting to a three-round draw with Demetrious “Mighty Mouse” Johnson. A tremendous amount of controversy surrounds the fight as the bout was originally scored as a majority decision win for Johnson before a human scoring error was discovered that made the bout a draw. It was a shocking turn of events for McCall, and he is scheduled to rematch Johnson sometime in the near future. Just days after the fight, McCall talked to Fight Cove about his performance in the bout, his reaction to find out the scorecards were miscalculated and what he plans to do different when he rematches Johnson later this year.
Mike Bohn: Are you still jetlagged from Australia?
Ian McCall: A little bit, not really.
Mike Bohn: How was fighting over there for the first time?
Ian McCall: It was a really fun time. The Australian crowd really embraced me. It was nice.
Mike Bohn: Yeah the fans over there gave you a good reception. I know they were loud for you in the arena, but what about just during fight week and stuff?
Ian McCall: Oh they were great man. Everybody, everywhere I went the people were all about it, they’re just “oh whatsup?” you know. I made some good friends out there, everybody I met, hung out with, was super cool.
Mike Bohn: Let’s talk about the fight. You tweeted this morning that you watched it for the first time and you said you didn’t fight how you should have. What did you mean by that?
Ian McCall: I just didn’t fight to my potential in that fight. I really feel like, I didn’t fight like I know, like I usually fight, you know? I didn’t…my kickboxing was horrible – compared to what I know it can be. I mean, everything. I felt my takedowns were on point, but I don’t think it was a complete failure, but maybe I’m just too much of a perfectionist. I don’t know. I just wasn’t happy with my performance.
Mike Bohn: Well the timing of your takedowns and your control on the ground was really great, was that something you thought was going to be a big advantage for you coming in?
Ian McCall: No, I felt that, I don’t know. I thought he would be harder to wrestle, I thought it was going to be more of a wrestling match. I guess he is, or was, the consensus best wrestler in the group, I would think. It was a lot easier than I thought; maybe he wasn’t thinking that’s what I was going to do, that’s why he didn’t work on it, I don’t really know.
Mike Bohn: The first round was really close, and then I though the second was his and then the third was easily yours, maybe even a 10-8. Was that how you scored it when you were watching it? Or what did you think?
Ian McCall: Yeah, I thought that I had the edge in the first round with takedowns. Our punching was for the most part even, he caught me with one punch but it didn’t really hurt me. I was half way off balance, half way he hit me hand. And you know it’s not to take anything away from him, but I wasn’t really affected by any of his punches. I thought that he won the second round. I don’t know, my head wasn’t really in the fight all that well. I think that the third was definitely all me.
Mike Bohn: What do you think happened in that second round? Because in the first and the third round you did use a lot of wrestling, did you kind of just get more focused on the striking game in that second round?
Ian McCall: Yeah, I kind of played into his game a little bit too much. I didn’t work my own.
Mike Bohn: In the third round Demetrious low blowed you and then you both kind of stopped and then he punched you. What happened there?
Ian McCall: I just kind of got my man parts pinched a little bit, then I kind of stopped to adjust, then he stopped, then the ref didn’t stop it. People keep calling it a cheap shot, but it wasn’t. It was a fight, and no one stopped the fight. So always protect yourself at all times, I probably would have done the same thing.
Mike Bohn: That was my next question; did you just think it was more a case of you not protecting yourself at all times?
Ian McCall: Yes, exactly. We were fighting, so, I should have protected myself better.
Mike Bohn: Another point in the third round a lot of people are talking about is when you had him fully back mounted and you were reining down ground-and-pound, and you were playing to the crowd a little bit. Did you do that because you thought you were so far ahead? Or were you just in the moment?
Ian McCall: I wanted to make the crowd happy, and I was in the moment. I probably could have kept punching and tried to finish, you know, I won’t make that mistake next time.
Mike Bohn: You don’t really regret not just reining down punches, or do you think it would have made a difference?
Ian McCall: I don’t know, maybe I would have finished him if I would have focused on it more.
Mike Bohn: Once the fight ended, how confident were you in the decision? Did you think there was going to be a fourth round? Or did you think you had it in the bag?
Ian McCall: I thought I had it in the bag.
Mike Bohn: How angry were you when they read it? What was going through your mind when they read it for him?
Ian McCall: I was pretty pissed off man.
Mike Bohn: Were you confused at all that Bruce Buffer said it was a majority decision when the way he announced it there should have been a split?
Ian McCall: I don’t really know man. I was just; I had a kind of weird feeling that I wasn’t going to get the decision. I don’t know why.
Mike Bohn: You left the cage immediately when the decision was announced, what happened immediately once you went back stage? How much time went by before the informed you what had actually happened?
Ian McCall: About 45 minutes. I had time to shower and you know, they had to figure everything out.
Mike Bohn: Who told you? Was it a member of the commission or a member of the UFC?
Ian McCall: It was Dana (White).
Mike Bohn: Can you just describe what your mood was like when he told you? I’m sure you were devastated before that.
Ian McCall: Yeah I was pretty mad. It just of made me laugh; I was kind of like “Oh, wow, okay.” I don’t know, I was just so emotionally drained that I just kind of smiled and was like “Okay, cool. Thank you.”
Mike Bohn: Now we know there is going to be a rematch, has the UFC given you any indication when that might happen?
Ian McCall: Everyone keeps saying April, but they haven’t told me anything.
Mike Bohn: How would you feel about? I’ve heard UFC 145, but that’s only six weeks away. Would you be ready to fight again that soon?
Ian McCall: Yeah, I’ll be ready.
Mike Bohn: What would you do differently in the rematch? Do you want to work on your striking because that was your biggest downfall in the fight?
Ian McCall: Yeah, just my striking, you know, it’s something that I focus on momentously. There isn’t anything I would change no. I wasn’t there completely.
Mike Bohn: Before the fight you told me that you didn’t think Demetrious was a dangerous opponent. How do you feel about him now? Do you feel differently?
Ian McCall: Nope. I still feel the same way. I don’t think he’s all that dangerous. I think if it goes to decision, if he wins, it’ll be by decision. I don’t see him finishing me, I’ll finish him.
Mike Bohn: How did you feel about him celebrating the way that he did when the decision was read? It was obviously such a close fight, but did you have any problem with how he was acting after?
Ian McCall: No, no, no. You win, you celebrate man. I can’t take that from him. He is a great guy. He’s not the cocky trash talking kind. You know, you’re happy to win, especially when maybe he was a little shocked that he got the decision, I don’t know. I didn’t see his face, I didn’t see his reaction. But no, if you win you celebrate, that’s fine.
Mike Bohn: When are you going to get back to training?
Ian McCall: I’ll probably take this week off and then get back next week.
Mike Bohn: Great, and I’m assuming you came out of the fight injury-free?
Ian McCall: Yeah, I’m completely fine.
Mike Bohn: That’s awesome man. Thanks a lot for your time; I know a lot of people loved your performance even with the decision. I had a lot of friends who saw you fight for the first time and they’re big fans now.
Ian McCall: Well, thank you. I’m happy I can be of service to the loyal fans
Ian "Uncle Creepy" McCall Talks Demetrious Johnson, Judging Fiasco & The Rematch